Comments on: Jaws screen-reader vs. Javascript modifying the DOM http://www.teamrubber.com/blog/jaws-screen-reader-vs-javascript-modifying-the-dom/ Team Rubber talks on the Internet in a blog Thu, 08 Dec 2011 13:10:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Owen http://www.teamrubber.com/blog/jaws-screen-reader-vs-javascript-modifying-the-dom/comment-page-1/#comment-10686 Owen Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:06:51 +0000 http://www.teamrubber.com/blog/?p=991#comment-10686 @Rick You can get the 30 min trial for free and after that you have to restart the machine. This sounds annoying but can be circumvented by using VMware's rollback feature. I have a few screen readers set up on my machine. There really is no excuse not to test. @Adam Yes it is clever enough although implementation varies depending on which browser you are using with JAWS. We have used ARIA alerts in other projects. Admittedly older versions of screen readers don't support ARIA but there's not much that can be done about that. People need to upgrade, NVDA is free, again: there is no excuse. Signed Owen "no excuse" Curtis-Quick @Rick
You can get the 30 min trial for free and after that you have to restart the machine. This sounds annoying but can be circumvented by using VMware’s rollback feature. I have a few screen readers set up on my machine. There really is no excuse not to test.

@Adam
Yes it is clever enough although implementation varies depending on which browser you are using with JAWS. We have used ARIA alerts in other projects. Admittedly older versions of screen readers don’t support ARIA but there’s not much that can be done about that. People need to upgrade, NVDA is free, again: there is no excuse.

Signed Owen “no excuse” Curtis-Quick

]]> By: AdamA http://www.teamrubber.com/blog/jaws-screen-reader-vs-javascript-modifying-the-dom/comment-page-1/#comment-8271 AdamA Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:49:54 +0000 http://www.teamrubber.com/blog/?p=991#comment-8271 Owen do you know if Jaws is clever enough to understand Aria stuff? I know it should be, but jusding by the pictures on the box I'd say they haven't made any updates to it since 1803. Rick, yes, it's quite interesting seeing how it works, and I would guess that most people use it with Javascript switched on. If you find a way of getting a free demo then let us know! It's about £800 for a single licence, so at the moment we've just got it running on one XP machine. Apparently the open-source NVDA is much better, but I think there's quite an IE6-style wont-go-away thing with the old Jaws. Owen do you know if Jaws is clever enough to understand Aria stuff? I know it should be, but jusding by the pictures on the box I’d say they haven’t made any updates to it since 1803.

Rick, yes, it’s quite interesting seeing how it works, and I would guess that most people use it with Javascript switched on. If you find a way of getting a free demo then let us know! It’s about £800 for a single licence, so at the moment we’ve just got it running on one XP machine. Apparently the open-source NVDA is much better, but I think there’s quite an IE6-style wont-go-away thing with the old Jaws.

]]> By: Rick Hurst http://www.teamrubber.com/blog/jaws-screen-reader-vs-javascript-modifying-the-dom/comment-page-1/#comment-7925 Rick Hurst Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:57:32 +0000 http://www.teamrubber.com/blog/?p=991#comment-7925 This is really interesting. I wonder how many common accessibility techniques are implemented on the basis that screen readers don't do javascript at all, when really the issue is which bits of javascript are being used. I think many people (including me) work based on completely wrong assumptions about the way screen readers work, and would really benefit from being able to get hold a free version of Jaws for testing purposes... This is really interesting. I wonder how many common accessibility techniques are implemented on the basis that screen readers don’t do javascript at all, when really the issue is which bits of javascript are being used. I think many people (including me) work based on completely wrong assumptions about the way screen readers work, and would really benefit from being able to get hold a free version of Jaws for testing purposes…

]]> By: Owen http://www.teamrubber.com/blog/jaws-screen-reader-vs-javascript-modifying-the-dom/comment-page-1/#comment-6662 Owen Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:12:10 +0000 http://www.teamrubber.com/blog/?p=991#comment-6662 I had a thought the other day: a graceful way of doing accessible wysiwyg would be to use ARIA alerts to read out the input label. I had a thought the other day: a graceful way of doing accessible wysiwyg would be to use ARIA alerts to read out the input label.

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